Something Similar 25.2.2004


Tit for Tat

Note: this is not a rant against Christianity nor Christians (see the end of this post). I merely wish to discuss the problems that arise when one uses the Bible to deny the rights of others.

If one can quote the Bible to say that homosexuals should be denied their right to marry, then let's see what I can turn up in it.

"Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."
-- I Corinthians 14:34-35 (NIV)

That one was interesting. Let's take a look at Genesis 19. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
-- Genesis 19:4-5 (NIV)
And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
-- Genesis 19:30-36 (NIV)

Interesting.. That gathering of men sounds a lot like a gang of rapists, not just homosexuals. It should be noted that Lot and his daughters are never punished or even reprimanded by God for their incest in 30-36. If we take the conservative view point on these writings, we are forced to say that homosexuality will destroy society, but incest will not have negative consequences.

We should also remember Leviticus 21:16-23 says that handicapped people are not allowed to approach an altar of God because they would "profane [God's] sanctuatries." Deuteronomy 17:2-7 tells us to kill all others who follow a different religion. Jeremiah 16:10-11 says that God will kill children of parents who worship another god.

I have great respect for Jesus Christ. He was a real figure who spread a message of love and peace (mostly). He did good. The belief that he was the son of God is not something I follow, but he spread a good message. Christianity can be a religion of great good, but to force such intolerance and hatred on others because of what a few men wrote down ages ago is horrendous.

No church will be forced to marry homosexuals. They are private organizations. No one will have their rights infringed, only expanded.

The same arguments are being made against homosexuals that were made against blacks in the Civil Rights era and suffragists in the era before the women's right to vote. Blacks were said to be more "diseased" and should not be allowed to spread it by marrying white women and men. Suffragists were told that they were evil and immoral. Both were told they were going "against the Bible."

When the Bible says so many things that we abhor, how can we agree that it should be the foundation of our laws and government?

What side of history do you want to be on?

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